You've succeded in letting the "dirty gewn" cause far more upset than he'd ever planned on causing by ragekicking everyone.

Well done!

So, you are ranting about trust and because someone made you butthurt you betray all of your fellow corp members kick em out and keeping all the isk and assets.

Lesson learned, good job.

lvl4 missions 18 hours a day lol

show me your 1 bil raven fit please.

show me your 1 bil navy raven fit please.

my job ,my wife and my children are making sure ,i can,t
thanking god ,that i love my underpaid job ,my wife and my children and still have time to play and love EvE

Hm... cant find anything.

No kill, no goon ever in your corp. Only something in the Corporations section, which seems to match. >here<

Looks like you pissed someone off.

His raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I

Terrible fitting. Heavy missile launchers on a raven? GTFO. Fit cruise missiles. Also, lose the tracking range script. It doesn't exist. Targeting range will work better.

I just noticed the OP's name is "NPC"

Translated to EVE: Don't give them roles in the corp so you can kick them the second anything hairy happens, be more selective about who you choose and what you let newer members do, and don't flaunt an expensive ship unless you're around ell trusted people, keep a cheaper but still effective ship on hand when working with people you don't have full trust with yet.

*puts on his robe and tinfoil hat

What we have here people is a new type of awox. It is dirty, very cunning but very very dirty. I bet the OP himself is a goonswarm alt and was in a long range scam where he set up a "mission" corporation in the hopes of scamming several people out of their BPOs, Ships and other Items by using "help" and "low,low tax" as honey to draw in the poor defenseless carebears. Then invites a fellow awoxer to "gank" his ship (where is the kill mail for this, he types it out, I find that suspicious) and uses this as a pretext to "ragekick" out the carebears.

So he loses a single CNR (probably with no fit, he only needed to undock it incase a member was around the station, or maybe it was a regular raven, the carebears might not of noticed the difference) and in return rakes in billions from thft loot.

very cleaver. I give you no medals though.

Are you saying that no Goon, not even one, can ever be successfully rehabilitated? That Goons have no chance at all of ever becoming decent human beings again? I want to see some credible demographic statistics on ex-Goon recidivism (that's the correct spelling there, I looked it up) rates. Until then, I refuse to judge my fellow man based upon mistakes he may have made in his past. Even if that includes a history with Gewns.

Ok, your first big mistake was making a thread about your loss, second was punishing the other corp members for some others actions. Any good CEO/Leader will acess the mistake he made , learn from it and move on. Trust is part of the risk factor involved with EvE, but you simply can't paint everybody with the same brush, it's a tough call, but most of us enjoy it that way, move on and have fun

Everything else aside.... how the hell can a carebear who runs level 4's for 12-18 hours daily, has a list of ships in corp hanger a page and a half long and he can't afford a new CNR?

This the problem with bears in this game. They are horders. What is all that isk for anyways if you're not going to buy new ships with it?

You could say to yourself "hey, it's a GAME, one that OTHER PEOPLE PLAY TOO...and that guy who killed me, he was just playing it the way it was intended!"


But since you are stubbornly incapable of learning even the most simple lesson about eve, you're best off with the

I do this sort of work very regularly. I originally began doing it because it it one of the few methods to **** with people in highsec that hasn't been extensively and repeatedly nerfed.

The real question is why, in a multiplayer pvp game, do you feel you shouldn't have to defend yourself, even if only by doing something as simple as maintaining some situational awareness.

LMAO you guys make up your mind. You have pointed out in past post that eve is multi-player now you say eve is solo. This could happen from anyone at anytime. As much as I despise Goofswarm they arent the only awoxers.

I know this thread, it was bad. It is still bad. You should all feel bad for resurrecting it!

I do think there needs to be an counter in situations like this since the mechanic really isn't being used as intended. The ability to freely shoot corp mates in high sec won't have any real place in the game once the duel system is introduced and should be made into a Concord infraction. Alternately, let players "leave" corps in space if under attack by a corp mate and they haven't fired back by making the stasis period engage Concord protection from corpies.

Or better yet, let CEOs decide whether member on member aggression is allowed in the corp or calls in Concord.

Maybe this revelation will help get you into low/nullsec?

Memories....

I too once started a new player friendly high-sec training corp doing mission running with newbs, and allowed in a few other players that said they too wanted to help out the newer players..

I figured, what do I have to lose? I didn't give out the POS roles. I had all the expensive stuff in locked down in personal hangers.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14915039

A more experienced player wanted to run a mission with me but didn't have a ship handy.. so, I loaned him my maelstrom. Not only did he blow up my billion iSK macherial, he did it with the ship I loaned him. He also took about 300 million ISK worth of stuff from the shared corp hanger.

Then he wouldn't dock up so that I could kick him from corp, so no one else could undock until they left corp.


The year leading up to that point had been super frustrating, both in game (2 corps disintegrated and a 3rd moved to northern 0.0) and in real life ( was undergoing cancer treatment) that I gave up on this player base and quit EVE.

It felt like, if you are not a total donkeyhole, this game just is not for you....

Took a year away before I came back.

You deny it and yet, in the same sentence You confirm it.

Have you ever examined your choice to play EVE online? Have you examined the wisdom of playing a game with a harsh death penalty when you really really don't like losing stuff? Have you examined the wisdom of playing a game that features non-consensual pvp when you obviously don't like non-consensual pvp?

Rhetorical question, we know the answer for all types who would complain about the events you describe. The answer is no. If the goal is safe co-op space game play, why aren't you playing Star Trek online?

I reserve the right to infiltrate your corp if I desire (and you are careless) and do terrible things. I also reserve the right for you to be able to do exactly the same thing to me or others.

You would be best served by simply becoming a better player of the game... primarily by becoming more familiar with the rules and the best practices people use to succeed and enjoy themselves within that rule set.

If you are too stubborn or ignorant to learn from the wisdom and experience of players who have more knowledge of the game than yourself expect some hard knocks.

Are you sure he is not just your alt and you are just very very confused? Think about it.

Sooooo... CCP and the playerbase should change the fundamental ideology of Eve Online so that you can be perfectly safe to run l4's in your shitfit faction raven? Otherwise you'll unsub all 50 of your accounts? Seems reasonable.

I hope you were providing valuable services for those mission runners since you were taxing them.

Funny "Its all about Trust" is the campaign Australian opposition just started up against our so called Prime Minister here in Australia.

Is the OP a member of the Australian Liberal Party

Thread is misleading. You should put "Goon joined my corp and killed me ship".

Yes, it's a question of trust but you should have already known what a Goon is. Once upon a time, this lot was quite cool but over time Goons have become the anti-thesis of what they were - a collection of 'look at me look at me, I'm so cool". One day, like all organisms and organizations, it too will die.. hopefully in a painful manner.

Therein lies the issue of trust. To trust a Goon is like putting a gun to your head. Goons feed on others, hell they sometimes feed each on each other.

Don't misjudge or punish your corp mates just because of a Goon as that would mean you're no better then a Goon.

On a side note, that fit. Did you take some of form of Mexican moonshine when you accepted the Goon and fitted the ship?

Dude you are the one on the forum whining. If you didn't come here for advice on how to protect yourself in the future but merely to ***** about how gullible you've been then don't expect sympathy.

So why dish it out in the form of a whine dressed up as a ' public service message'?



Attention then.... whatever



Guess this new forum doesn't reference the posts from the old forum... bit before your time noob

I read the OP... it was rather a boring whine mixed with a thinly veiled rant against Goons and game mechanics that pretty much everyone takes for granted but yourself. You yourself described it as a public service announcement which implies at least a limited advisory agenda on your part, no matter how vague and confused it was. I think it was something along the lines of never trust a Goon

Thread only really piqued my interest when you revealed you couldn't see anything wrong with fitting heavy launchers to a Raven and then wondered why anyone found that amusing.

2009 player.... heavy launchers on a Raven.... how much did your character cost again did you say?

Sooooo... CCP and the playerbase should change the fundamental ideology of Eve Online so that you can be perfectly safe to run l4's in your shitfit faction raven? Otherwise you'll unsub all 50 of your accounts? Seems reasonable.





Yea gee. How could have I ever drawn that conclusion from your post? Tell us more about the "problem" of unconsensual pvp and its effect on your numerous accounts.

Tell us how Eve could "be so much better" and how you "shouldn't have to change your playing style". I think your playing the wrong game, friend.

(Hint: I underlined the really awful sentiments in your post for you. Hth)

2009 player.... heavy launchers on a Raven.... how much did your character cost again did you say?

PAGING JENN ASIDE, JENN ASIDE, PLEASE REPORT TO TO THREAD. FINAL CALL FOR JENN ASIDE.

Anyway to pick apart your post:
1. You need a maturity check if players doing bad things to you results in you calling them a whole bunch of pretty names. The pure unadulterated irony of a "mature" person such as yourself calling other players immature is hilarious.

2. Your perception of the reality of the game is based on...? Actually, I'll concede that I am a generally nice guy and look to make friends. I also hang out with my friends and help each other out. But we also shoot other people, and get our rocks of shooting other people, while helping each other out and hanging out.

3. He has figured out how he wants to play it, and indeed has the right to do so. He chose to be what you yourself would call an immature jerk, and kicked everyone out of his corp because 1 person, that's right, 1 person shot him 100km off the station, in his ****-fit CNR.

4. Similarly, other people also paid their subscription fee and have the right to play how they want. Stop being a hypocrite.

So you resort to name calling when you have no argument? How cute and original

something happened like this when i first played...someone i met through local we talked for a few hours and he needed a corp i offered him the one i was in and to make a long story short he blew up my hulk while i was mining. i mean i dont get it myself we talked for a few hours seemed nice etc. i mean people realize that yeah they got you hahaha but they missed out on possibly great people to fly with...maybe even romances if one is a chick. i mean at least null sec and pirates u know what u getting urself into...what happened to you OP is just plain being an *******!

OP, you are a terrible leader on so many levels. Stop being a CEO, and learn the game as a grunt. Once you have 2-3 years under your belt following someone who actually has a clue on how to lead a corp and actually learning from them(that learning part is key) then consider trying to run your own corp again.

If you want to play a game like this, but without the griefers, may I suggest Freelancer?

Your CNR fit was demanded because it is a gauge of how much you actually know about the game, which was revealed to be less than my wife who has played for a month knows, and with considerably less knowledge of how to lead.

As a final note, refusing to try another game because you have never tried another online game is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. What is wrong with you? 'This is the game I choose, and it had better be exactly the way I want it or I am gonna whine about it!' is all the rest of us hear. Maybe you should take an EVE break and actually TRY something else so you can make an actual educated decision?

Or you can continue to whine about how we are all sociopathic children, instead of growing up and learning something yourself.

Hey brother. This is your tear drenched post not mine.

What is really amusing here is that you brought AWOX tears to GD looking for compassion and then proceed to call other people "moron". HTFU m8, seriously.

As far as 1%ers, I have no clue what your on about. Been playing for 3 years and have never ever had my gameplay "dictated" by this supposed group. I can only assume this is some form of "goonspiracy".

I'd say the figure of sociopaths in eve is much higher? Why you ask? Because we normal hard working people understand that THIS IS A GAME, where we can be anyone we like..had a bad day at work? I can come on here and join a fleet and go and fly my anger out on some other poor unsuspecting souls...others decide to scam because maybe in real life they are genuine nice guys who work hard and want to play a different role....most of us accept that the people we talk to on here in some aspect may not quite be who's they be in RL in fact we might not even like them but in EVE...I'd suggest you're taking this spaceship game way too seriously

• Would you be underhanded while playing sports?
• Would you cheat in a FPS?
• Would you hack a different MMO?
• Would you be callous while playing a board game?

Those are all game scenarios -- 'it's just a game' applies to them all.

On the other hand, EVE is explicitly and openly advertised as a game where spying, treachery, piracy, theft and violent coercian are not just allowed but normal gameplay.

You lose not even a bill and turtle hard?

really? REALLY?

I guess it kinda depends how much fun you were having with other people although you post reads more like "I started a low tax corp so I could get tax of mission runners."

rather than, I started a corp to achieve something.

I did read the thread, saw the failfit CNR, and it proved you do not know how to play EVE. The other posted fit(which some people are mistaking and thinking was your fit, sadly) is, as explained, a joke from a long time ago.

I've been playing since 2006, but how long anyone has been playing EVE has no relevance on whether they actually know how to play, which is why I didn't bother asking how long you have been playing, or mention how long I had til now.

You might want to read the whole thread while not in possession of a giant case of mad.

have you tried idk not mining and running missions

And this is why you are failing at EVE

You obviously don't see it, or this thread would not exist.